In a wide-ranging interview, former president Barack Obama sat down with CNN Chief International Anchor Christiane Amanpour for a candid discussion on the war in Ukraine, the upcoming US election and how to navigate global relationships with autocratic leaders.

 

“I do believe that democracy will win if we fight for it,” Obama told Amanpour in Athens, where he is discussing issues of democracy. “Our existing democratic institutions are creaky, and we’re going to have to reform them.

 

Asked about Trump’s indictment earlier this month, Obama said this:

It’s less than ideal. But the fact that we have a former president who is having to answer to charges brought by prosecutors does uphold the basic notion that nobody’s above the law and the allegations will now be sorted out through a court process.”

The full interview with Obama airs at 10 p.m. ET on CNN in a hour-long special, “Obama & Amanpour: Will Democracy Win?”

 

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